From: Terry Galloway [terryg2@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:33 AM To: Schaaf, Libby Cc: Flynn, Rachel; Miller, Scott; Jesper Jurcenoks; Howard Matis; Ken Eifert; Marv And Betty; Kalb, Dan; William P Tullis; Barry Pilger; Verdin, Felicia Subject: Re: URGENT Sign Installation Request (Beat 13) Thank you. This should get a good response. Sent from Terry's iPhone5 On Apr 16, 2013, at 5:10 PM, "Schaaf, Libby" wrote: This neighborhood simply wants to mount signs indicating that the neighborhood has surveillance cameras in the public right of way. I've discussed this briefly with Scott a while ago. Can we figure out a way for them to do this or do I need to bring a proposed revision to the sign ordinance? Please sign up for informative newsletter at libbyschaaf.com ! On Apr 16, 2013, at 8:15 AM, "Terry Galloway" wrote: Our neighborhood is a little different than in your area, since our roads are 15 ft wide and very steep on the sides. Our private property lines are set back typically 10 - 15 ft from the side of the roads either down a steep cliff on up a back into the brush. To get any sign visibility by our burglars coming to exploit our area, we need to have the signs at the edge of road. Accordingly, we had no choice but to meet with Libby Schaaf several times and we also talked with Dan Kalb at Hiller Clubhouse NHCA meeting about getting help with City approval so they could mount the signs following all of the detailed City requirements. Also at Hiller, we refreshed all 3 OPD officers and 2 Berkeley OPD officers about the Neigborhood Guard program and our efforts in our CharingCross/Sherwick neighborhood. All agreed to help us every way they could. We don't know how we could make the mounting on private property work up here. Libby offered her high level help with Council, if needed. So I alerted her as well as Dan yesterday. As Libby suggested, we may have to change the sign ordinance via Council. But let's hope a full meeting of the minds and our urgency will do the trick. Have your other groups dealt with this situation of narrow roads, private property line setbacks, and steep sides before? My plan is also to call Barry Pilger today, who knows all the finery of real estate in our steep area. I hope to hear back from Libby and Dan today too. ---Terry On Apr 15, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Jesper Jurcenoks wrote: Hi Terry. Probably a simple misunderstanding. Our signs do not need to be approved as we place them on private property. That's why the city has never heard about them. Do not attach them to street signs or utility poles. JJ On Apr 15, 2013 5:13 PM, "Terry Galloway" wrote: The City does not seem to want to approve the Neighborhood Guard sign that is on your website and apparently used in other neighborhoods in Oakland. They seem to constantly confuse Neighbor Watch with Neighborhood Guard. What action do you recommend we take next? Sent from Terry's iPhone5 Begin forwarded message: From: "Wang, Joe" Date: April 15, 2013, 4:57:48 PM PDT To: , "Verdin, Felicia" Cc: "Long, Jacqueline" , "Taylor, Patrick" , "Avelino, Darian" , "Wlassowsky, Wlad" , "Chun, Peter" , "Ramey, Jamie" Subject: RE: NW Sign Installation Request (Beat 13) Terry, The City (OPD) never approved the attached sign you purchased, and it appears they will not. The second attached sign is the one I thought OPD had approved and recommended (Felicia/Jackie, can you confirm?) Joe Wang Joe Wang, P.E. Supervising Transportation Engineer Transportation Services Division Public Works Agency City of Oakland (510)238-6107 phone (510)238-7415 fax From: Verdin, Felicia Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 4:51 PM To: Wang, Joe Cc: Long, Jacqueline Subject: RE: NW Sign Installation Request (Beat 13) Hi Joe, No, we never approved the attached sign. We have signs that were approved by the City Attorney s Office and vetted through the Neighborhood Watch Steering Committee and others. I believe that Jacque explained to you that in order for groups to install signs with the OPD shield or other law enforcement logos that they would need to be approved by the corresponding agency. OPD/NSD will only authorize the installation of Neighborhood Watch signs in the public right away that have been approved by our office. We only have two such signs at this time. In most cases, groups should be advised to place surveillance camera signs on their private property. Felicia B. Verdin Community Programs Supervisor City of Oakland, Neighborhood Services Division 250 Frank H. Ogawa Plaza, Suite 6303 Oakland, CA 94612 510-238-3128 fax: 510-238-7685 Learn more about the Neigborhood Services Division and Neighborhood Watch Program and get helpful crime prevention tips at: www.oaklandnet.com/neighborhood watch From: Long, Jacqueline Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:04 AM To: Verdin, Felicia Cc: Wang, Joe Subject: NW Sign Installation Request (Beat 13) Greetings Felicia, Please send Joe Wang an email today letting him know you never approved the attached sign for installation. Thanks, Jacqueline Long Neighborhood Services Supervisor Oakland Police Department Neighborhood Services Division 238-7750 Office 238-7685 Fax